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« on: March 23, 2010, 10:57:26 pm »

Will changing the Toyo tyres supplied as standard reduce the road noise?
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 12:45:58 am »

Will changing the Toyo tyres supplied as standard reduce the road noise?

Only if you fit narrower tyres on smaller wheels (Wider tyres create more road noise than narrower tyres).  As the profile will increase too you will also get a smoother ride and replacement tyres will be cheaper.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 12:06:30 pm »

Different tyres from different makes make different types and different amounts of noise - for the same size - due to variations in tread and compound. You may well find that a Continental, Pirelli, etc would be quieter than a Toyo - but only first-hand experience would know.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 12:23:32 pm »

I've just had Toyo Proxes T1Rs fitted to the front and they seem to be much quieter than the standard, slightly lower speed rating (80V as opposed to 80W) but still well over the performance limits of the car.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 03:28:14 pm »

Hi Guys and Girls,

Having tried numerous performance tyres (45 series profile and lower) over the years from all the major manufactures ..
I have found that directional tyres (arrow on side of sidewall showing direction of rotation when fitting) generally are the worst offenders for noise ..  
when compared to asymmetrical tyres.

For years, directional tyres have been at the forefront of high performance tyres and we have all suffered with their major two downfalls in order to maintain high grip levels.
(1) Noise
(2) Comfort

Over the last few years we are seeing a change by tyre manufactures to move their high performance tyres into asymmetrical design and finally we have quieter tyres and and an acceptable level of comfort. A tyre that will ride the bumps (increased grip) instead of bouncing from one bump to the next.

A prime example of a high performance tyre is that of the Michelin Pilot Sports 3 which I have fitted to my Audi A5 (4.2)... my sunny Sunday sports car.

http://www.michelin.com.au/tyre/patterndetail/PassengerCar/PilotSport3

Use the ZOOM function and look at the outer tread blocks compared to the main centre grooves ... the outer tread blocks have NO "through channels" to the large centre grooves and this provides three functions

(a) Stops tread movement on high cornering loads (great steering response)
(b) A larger contact patch when cornering (fantastic grip)
(c) Stops the noise from the centre of the tyre travelling outwards (far quieter tyre than other performance tyres)

Compare the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 to the top of the range Michelin Pilot Super Sport ... they both still have these same design features

http://www.michelin.com.au/tyre/patterndetail/PassengerCar/PilotSuperSport

Once you have tried the latest generation of asymmetrical tyres, you'll never purchase a directional tyre again. This basic principle can be applied to performance tyres a little closer to your price range.


PS: My wife has the new mazda 2 Genki as her around the town car but I find myself really enjoying the fantastic steering (for an electrical assisted steering car) and the general all-round balance
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 03:50:28 pm »

Hi, do they make them in a size that fits the M2, and when the performance of the car is hardly good enough to warrent such a tyre that are twice the price I'd pay and for what gain? I'd consider them for my Mondeo though...
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 01:43:04 am »

Hi Guys and Girls,

Just to further expand on my explaination on "noise" when it comes to tyres.

The examples on the above Michelin Tyres are there to illustrate the "tyre and tread construction" which may assist you when looking for
performance tyres that reduce road noise. These tyres are designed for far heavier high performance cars and not suitable for the Mazda 2.

The following are a list of tyres (in no particular order) that will fit the Mazda 2 Sports fitted with 195/45VR16 tyres.


TYRES: (195/45 VR16)  
Tyre Outside Diameter: 582 mm
Rim Size: 6.5 in wide rims
Wheel Offset: 50mm
   
Dunlop SP Sport 2050 / Dunlop SP 9000

            
Bridgestone Potenza RE050
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/re050.aspx   
         
Pirelli P-Zero Nero
http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/au/en/car/sheet/pzero_nero.html   
               
Continental ContiPremium Contact 2   
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/au/en/continental/tyres/themes/car-tyres/sport-uhp-tyres/contipremiumcontact-2/contipremiumcontact-2-en,tabNr=4.html      

Michelin Pilot Primacy
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Primacy
            
Yokohama S-Drive AS01
http://www.yokohama.com.au/ourtyres/tyre.aspx?tyreid=206
            
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3   
http://www.goodyear.com.au/TyreDetailAction.do?website=GYR&websegmentcode=PASSENGER&mtpcode=00373&from=nPerPage
         
Falken ZE912
http://www.falken.com.au/tyres/passenger-ZE912.html
               
BF Goodrich G-Force Profiler
http://bfgoodrich.com.au/index.php?a=tires.passenger&id=33
         
Toyo Proxes TR-1   
http://www.toyotires.com.au/_webapp_1080666/Proxes_T1R            


Note:Upgrading to 205/45 VR16 = 1.55% increase OD: 590 mm
   (  60 km/h –   60.93 km/h)
   (100 km/h – 101.55 km/h)



One has to remember that whilst your Mazda 2 has ABS Brakes, Traction Control and Stability Control, to aid in the safety of your car, this technology is greatly degraded by those that fit larger wheels but then have a brain fade and purchase the cheapest tyres they can find.

Just remember the .... TYRES ARE THE ONLY CONTACT YOUR VEHICLE HAS WITH THE ROAD ... buy the best you can afford
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 06:10:55 pm »

Will changing the Toyo tyres supplied as standard reduce the road noise?

A quick answer to this is yes. I have just stuck a set of Pirelli P Zero's on and the road noise is less obvious, plus the grip in the wet is superb.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 10:37:53 am »

For various reasons (not by choice) I have 2 'wanli' tyres on mine.... DO NOT BUY THESE!
They give the most horrific road noise because of their pattern - Worse between 40 and 60mph!
It took months to work out that it was the tyres and not bearings/wheels as it seemed more obvious on one side of the car! - Iv now moved them to the front to scrub them down quicker in order to get some replacements! Wink

My other two are Falkens which I think are best all rounder mid-range performance tyre.

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