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« on: July 13, 2010, 07:50:31 pm »

I bought a 10plate mazda2 in metallic black over 2 weeks ago - it was about 3 months old.  I was washing it this weekend, and after rinsing the car, used 2 buckets with a microfibre cloth to carefully wash it.  Today though, in direct sunlight, I noticed these circular "scratches" on it - am guessing these are swirl marks?? 

My concern: how did i end up with these when i was so careful? And how can I get rid of them?  I was considering polishing it - i was given genuine mazda polish - but am too nervous to go near it now!?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 09:38:47 pm »

the swirl marks were probably put there by the mugs at the dealership...
there's loads of different products out there
i personally use Meguiars stuff...
if you want to get into detailing cars have a look at:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/

hope that helps!
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 03:59:31 pm »

Thanks for the reply.

I've been looking at the mcguires stuff - it looks good.  For the time being though - I am considering giving it a polish with the stuff i was given. Would this help?  (I'm a complete amateur when it comes to cars - this is the second car i have had - the first one being a micra)
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 06:26:05 pm »

it shouldnt do any harm but its probably not the best.
i'd get yoursef to Halfords their doing 3 for 2 on care cleaning stuff at the moment... however i know that they're about to go to buy one get one free soon....
i've done the 3 step system on my 2

www.meguiars.co.uk has good info too Cheesy

Taken from Meguiars brilliant solutions......... 

Washing

In automotive paint care, washing and cleaning are not the same. While they sound similar, they are vastly different procedures. WASHING removes loose contaminants from your finish like dust, road grime and fresh bird droppings.

A common misconception is that dishwashing detergent is safe to use as car wash. ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Detergents are formulated to stip everything off of the surface, leaving it squeaky clean. Asqueaky paint finish tells you that it has not protection. With repeated use, dishwashing detergents remove everything from your paint finish including waxes, silicones and polymers. Once this is accomplished, they then proceed to remove the life giving oils in your paint finish, actually accelerating the oxidation process.

All of Meguiars car wash products are pH balanced and specifically formulated to enhance the appearance and protection of automotive paint finishes.


CLEANING or Surface preparation

Removes stubborn, bonded above surface contaminants, as well as below surface defects, like stains, blemishes and oxidation.

After your car is washed, pass your fingertips over the surface. Do you fell roughness on your paint? If so, these are above-surface, bonded contaminants.

Generally, you'll notice this contamination on your car's horizontal surfaces, but you may also see small, dark spots/specks on the rear and lower surfaces of a light coloured car. Over time, these contaminants will dull your paint and rob your car of its shine.

Fortunately, Meguiars Smooth surface Kit includes everything that you need to saftly, and easily, remove bonded contaminants. And NO! clay bars are NOT only for professional use.

Simply form 1/2 of the Clay bar into a pancake-looking wafer. Placing the clay bar at your fingertips (working on a WASHED and DRIED car.) lightly move the clay bar back and forth over the surfaces after using Meguiars Quick Detailer for lubrication. The bar will grab and gently remove all bonded contaminants, leaving the surface as smooth as glass!


POLISH & WAX

POLISHING is an optional step, and is different from WAXING.

While some modern day marketers have caused confusion by naively misusing the terms, the definitions are clear.

As in polishing a diamond, the sole purpose of polishing is to create brilliant high gloss. For car show enthusiasts who are obsessed with having perfectly clear reflections , a pure polish, like Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish is the perfect choice. Others may be looking to remove the last hints of swirl marks while maximizing the gloss.

WAXING falls under the larger heading of protecting the paint finish.



MAINTAIN

Once a car is waxed, the best ongoing protection for your car's finish is regular attention, or MAINTAINING the finish. Regardless of whether your car is parked or being driven, its in a hostile environment.

Everything that flies, from the gnat to a 747, expels contaminants that are determined to bond to and then etch into your cars finish. Add to this acid rain, industrial fallout and those unavoidable UV rays ( the No.1 cause of paint degradation), and you can see how your car is constantly under attack. The more your car is exposed to the elements, and the harsher the environment is where you live, the more attention your paint finish will require.

Fortunately, Meguiars has made it easy for you with the mist and wipe detailers. Meguiars Quick Detailer and Ultimate Quick Detailer allow you to safely and easily remove contaminants before they have time to bond to your paint finish . These products form the missing link between washing and waxing, allowing you to greatly extend the protective qualites of your car wax.


And lastly take a look at this from another forum i visit:
http://www.club323f.com/club323f/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13520

Woah loads of info, hope it helps Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 08:40:51 pm »

Thanks - the info is greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010, 12:57:28 am »

washing up liquid also contains salt which will rot anything it touches
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 11:29:03 am »

What would you use to get rid of tar? - I seem to have a lot of tar spots on the bottom of my car and don't want to use anything too abrasive but when I wash the car there is a rough feeling.   Huh?
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 03:29:28 pm »

you can get tar spot remover you should be able to get it from any good auto store or online. it's just a spray that dissolves the tar without damaging the paint
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 04:31:32 pm »

My concern: how did i end up with these when i was so careful? And how can I get rid of them?  I was considering polishing it - i was given genuine mazda polish - but am too nervous to go near it now!?

Your ability to get rid of the swirls will depend on how deep they are in your clearcoat. A clay bar probably won't touch them at all, neither will a mild cutting polish like Autoglym Super Resin Polish. You might need to look at something like Meguiar's SwirlX - and a pile of elbow grease. If that doesn't shift it, you're into machine polishing and rather than take the risk of wrecking your paintwork completely, I'd get a professional valet service to do the job for you - someone like AutoFinesse or AutoShine.

As to avoiding them in the future - use the two bucket method and don't let anyone else wash your car.
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