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Author Topic: brakes release over bumps, anyone else experienced this?  (Read 1241 times)
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« on: August 12, 2009, 08:38:11 pm »

my 08 t2 has a nasty nack of brake release over bumps or manholes.

I first noticed the problem braking when coming up to a pedestrian crossing. I must had driven over a slightly sunken drain cover. The brakes actually released even with my foot on the pedal for a good few feet before regaining grip.
This was concerning mainly for the pedestrian.
I just thought it was a one off, but have had the same problem a few times now. its about to go in for 24K service, so i hope it gets sorted for me and other road users, seriously i move on a good 5 to 10 metres with no brakes, aahhhh!!!  Angry

so anyone else witnessed this problem or similar? what did you get done about it, Help please Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 09:10:13 pm »

This sounds like something that I have had a couple of times in my 2, once on an uneven manhole and once on a bump/pothole.  When I experienced similar in my previous car, a Corsa, I was told that it was the ABS kicking in. 

With the Corsa it also happened when braking where there was a water leak, so a slippery surface - and both cars have done it on one particular bump near the bottom of a hill!  Most people assume that ABS means the car will stop quicker but that isn't necessarily the case, but it will come to a stop with more driver control and less chance of a skid.

I am assuming that the bump momentarily confuses the ABS system into thinking a wheel has locked up, so it releases the brakes and then reapplies them.  The Corsa also made a noise and you could feel a juddering on the pedal as it cut in.  In each case I have been doing less than 30 mph.

In view of the diagnosis on the Corsa, I haven't taken the matter any further with the 2.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 06:21:13 pm »

I experience such kick in by the brakes when going over bumps! You feel like the car kicks a bit  front!
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 07:45:31 pm »

I experience such kick in by the brakes when going over bumps! You feel like the car kicks a bit  front!

Hi, I think you are describing a suspension trait not a braking one...
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 09:07:32 pm »

I don't know how to describe it properly it just feels like the car kicks to recover the traction lost over a bump! Not sure how to say it ....
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 08:38:01 pm »

I don't know how to describe it properly it just feels like the car kicks to recover the traction lost over a bump! Not sure how to say it ....

Hi, if it is over wet drain covers then it'll be monentarily loss of traction, over bumps it could be the TC/ESP kicking in to compensate for loss of traction..
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 03:32:11 pm »

my bmw does this sometimes, its abs unlocking the wheels
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 05:32:33 pm »

Thanks for the info , it's on dry surface and I don't have the TC/ESP from the sport Wink So it must be ABS I guess?
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2010, 09:31:25 am »

I've had this happen to me a couple of time, and it isn't funny if it's on the approach to a busy junction / roundabout.

On both occasions I was traveling downhill towards islands on national speed limit roads. If there's a sunken manhole cover on the approach to the island this can unsettle the ABS. The closer the manhole cover is to the island the scarier it is - for both the driver and the passenger. On both occasions I honestly didn't think we were going to stop!

I know this thread is getting old now, but has anyone else had any experience of this lately?
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2010, 09:57:39 am »

I know this thread is getting old now, but has anyone else had any experience of this lately?

The places where mine did this are places I drive through quite often, so I have modified the way I drive (where and when I brake etc) to stop it from happening!  

Having said that, I am sure it will catch me out again now.  No matter how many times it has done it and how familar the location is, it is very unnerving.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 10:39:45 am »

HAHA it's way better than a E90 BMW does it, it happens if there is uneven tar surface especially if u brake hard.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 02:47:18 pm »

Ah, this is what happens to be sometimes then!

It always happens when I am coming into a crossing or breaking and if there are small bumps.

It feels like the brakes just stop working for 0.3 seconds and I get the "argh im going to crash feeling" and then all returns to normal again.

Yes I get that too, only very seldomly. And then after it's happened I'm not sure if I imagined the whole thing because the brakes work fine again.
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